‘You think it’s reasonable!?’ Phillips savages Caroline Lucas in M25 protest row

Caroline Lucas shut down by host over M25 climate protests

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Mr Phillips lost his cool as Ms Lucas stood by what she defended as “emergency action” of the Insulate Britain group who spent the week blocking major sections of the M25 motorway causing traffic chaos and stopping thousands going to work. She insisted she would personally not take such actions but was sympathetic with the demands of the group. The group are calling on the government to insulate homes to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

The Sky host asked Ms Lucas whether what the group did was “reasonable” before Ms Lucas insisted that the group’s “demands are reasonable.”

But Mr Phillips hit back demanding a straight answer on the action of blocking the M25 and preventing thousands of Britons from going to work and not how reasonable the demands of the group are.

The Green MP replied: “It is reasonable to take emergency action and that is what they did. The government has failed to put in any kind of insulation programme. First of all we had the Green Deal that completely failed!

“Then we had the Green Homes Grant, that has collapsed in absolute chaos…there is no programme to keep peoples homes warm

“What is happening is around 15 percent are coming from our leaky homes stock… What is unreadable sets its face against a set of policies that would get jobs up, get bills down and get emissions down.

But Mr Philipps slammed back: “I fully understand your point about government… Just to be absolutely clear, you think this was a perfectly reasonable action?”

He then asked Ms Lucas if she would accept an invitation from the Insulate Britain group to “block the M25”.

She replied: “I am saying that in extreme situations it is reasonable to take extreme actions. That is what has driven these protesters to do that.”

“Personally I prefer to take action where it is closer to the target of that action…. But I fully understand why protesters have been driven to do something more than that because the Government has been ignoring all of those actions for many many years.”

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